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Kayley
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Posted: 21-June-2010 at 11:56 | IP Logged Quote Kayley

Maybe it's just me but sometimes I get a bit annoyed at other bikers who are in such a rush to get past that they sit what feels like 2 inches off your tail.

I get it that I'm going slow and they want to go fast but why make it feel like I should move over at all costs. Sometimes all I can see in my mirrors is another bike. It doesn't really matter when there's plenty of room but when there's not, and you have to slow down and really move over for them, it annoys me!! Especially as they seem to then go on to make several more crazy overtakes.

The worse bit is someone with a really loud exhaust when they fly past you, scares the sh!t out of me!

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Posted: 21-June-2010 at 12:06 | IP Logged Quote Bellebot

My first ride out that happened to me. A ducati with termi exhausts roared past me and scared the sh*t out of me. Yes I was going slow, but you think a fellow biker would be a little considerate and not hoon past at great speed and noise.

Mind you my bf has a nasty habit of following me rather closely on his bike, which means I move over to let him past, but he usually won't, and when we stop I get a lecture on road positioning! So I usually have to have a rant at him to back off if he's following me. He rides far too close to other vehicles at times, it does my head in.

I did have a fireblade on my tail whilst filtering once, I obviously wasn't filtering fast enough for him, not nice when you have to constantly check your mirrors to see where the bike behind you is as you can't always tell if they'll overtake or just excessively rev their engine behind you to tell you to speed up.


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Posted: 21-June-2010 at 14:14 | IP Logged Quote GadgetGran

Yes, I've had that happen to me - it's bad enough when it's the car drivers, you'd think the bikers would have a bit of sense.....and then you watch them doing the most cringeworthy overtakes and you think, , well there you go, no sense at all.

Trouble is, they're the ones who give us all a bad name.
I've meet some really nice people since I've been biking, and I've met some people who are clearly total p*ats and you listen to them talking and think - they shouldn't be in charge of a pedal cycle let along a highly tuned engine.

It's so easy to generalise isn't it: all car drivers are bad, all bikers are good, lady bikers are responsible users of the road and blokes are just testosterone on 2 wheels etc......
They're ALL OUT TO KILL YOU!!!!!




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Posted: 21-June-2010 at 20:20 | IP Logged Quote Psychosian

I always get out the way if there's another bike coming. I tend to figure that they're going faster than me. And I also think they'll be watching me and I'm guaranteed to do something wrong!
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Posted: 21-June-2010 at 20:29 | IP Logged Quote LoopyLee

I wasn't intimidated by this, but it did used to drive me insane

My OH used to have a Duke with a Termi exhaust and I used to hate having him ride behind me.. His bike was soooo loud I couldn't hear mine, even though I was sat on top of it, so all I could hear was this loud noise roaring behind me.. If he was directly behind me and I couldn't see him it was even worse..

I used to slow down and wave him past as I couldn't put up with it


Note from OH... He used to love the loud pipes as they used to set off car alarms as he went past, and apparently he used to giggle in his crash helmet when it happened


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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 01:53 | IP Logged Quote Spirit

I still have the "L" plates on my bike, so obviouly feel "new" anyway.  I feel great around cars (apart from what I've moaned about on here in gnereal lately!), I suppose I mean I feel more confident.

When I see a biker without L plates, I wonder if they'll cut me any slack, perhaps understand my predicament when filtering or getting out of a bus/motorcycle lane to an outer lane.  Apart from one other learner driver, no-one has given me any special "help" or treatment.

Having said that, I do feel that we are more vulnerable on a bike, and that they must feel the same - it seems to me that it's every person for themselves.  So maybe they're not being impolite, but just riding the way that they've been taught?

If I see a biker coming up behind me, I tend to do what Psychosian says and get out of the way!  Or rather, I do my best not to slow them up anyway.

But the other day, I was driving my car to a queued-up 3 lane roundabout, and a biker (not on L plates) filtered to the roundabout between the 2nd and 3rd lane, then suddenly cut across the 2 cars to his left and took the first exit at the roundabout.  They had to slam the brakes on.  How the hell did he pass his test and how has he stayed alive?

Keep your wits about you mates, be it on yer bikes, cars, bicycles, scooters, tractors, skateboards, rollerskates, supermarket trolleys, wheelbarrows.....etc (I'll shut up now!)  Makes you wonder though, doesn't it?!

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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 08:06 | IP Logged Quote GadgetGran

Yes it does make you wonder.
Couple of weekends ago, 3 of us riding in a certain national park not far from me, a whole troupe of about 12 bikers hurtled past us at breakneck speed, overtook a lorry in front of us on a blind bend and brought us all out in a sweat, then turned left.
My OH was tail end charlie for us, he'd slowed down to let them all past, I was watching in my rear view mirror and I saw a girl roar past him, and then immediately cut straight in front of him to join her mates who'd turned left .
If OH had accelerated after she'd overtaken, he'd have t-boned her.  I felt even more cross that it was a girl!!!!

I wonder if that's one of the dangers of 'ride-outs' - that you are no longer riding/thinking for yourself, just the red mist of trying to keep up with everyone else


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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 08:51 | IP Logged Quote Laney

a girl did a wheelie past me on a massive bike once- really scared me.this was in the early days when i wasnt as experienced.
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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 08:53 | IP Logged Quote Kayley

Yes ok so maybe intimidated is the wrong word, just think it's unfair on those without years of experience under their belts (i,e me!) should feel under pressure from another bike who wants to make some crazy ovetake........... but I guess it's no different in a car, just one of those you have to get used to.............
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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 09:00 | IP Logged Quote Kayley

GadgetGran wrote:
I wonder if that's one of the dangers of 'ride-outs' - that you are no longer riding/thinking for yourself, just the red mist of trying to keep up with everyone else

I've tried keeping up with different riders and it just doesn't work which is why I don't bother. If they want to arrive somewhere 3 minutes before me, so be it!

Sometimes me, the hubby and our nephew go out (only passed his test a few weeks ago, got a fzr400) and he's said to me I if overtake, he knows chances are it will be safe for him to do so too. I think he meant it as a compliment.............

I still get some stick off them for not overtaking, going to slow, blah blah blah but I quite like being alive and intend to stay that way for a while........

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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 09:04 | IP Logged Quote GadgetGran

Kayley wrote:
............ our nephew go out (only passed his test a few weeks ago, got a fzr400) and he's said to me I if overtake, he knows chances are it will be safe for him to do so too. I think he meant it as a compliment.............

I still get some stick off them for not overtaking, going to slow, blah blah blah but I quite like being alive and intend to stay that way for a while........


yeah know what you mean - I usually overtake when I could just as easily squeeze my van past , but have noticed lately that I'm much more switched on about overtaking opportunities, now I'm more confident about winding the throttle open and NOT worrying about doing a wheelie (as if)


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Posted: 22-June-2010 at 22:13 | IP Logged Quote LoopyLee

I NEVER try to keep up if I'm out with other riders.. I was taught to 'ride my own ride' as you are more likely to run into trouble if you try to ride beyond your abilities..


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Posted: 09-July-2010 at 15:41 | IP Logged Quote hellbell

Im with Loopy on this one, i never try to keep up either and am more than
happy to move over to let faster riders past.

If im out with others then i tend to say to them that if im too slow then
they should go off and have a play, just wait at any junction that they are
turning off into so i know where to go.

The I.A.M group that im with have a drop off system that allows everyone
in the group to ride at their own speed without getting lost, have to say i
havent been on one of their social rides yet as am nervous about getting it
wrong!! haha

will have to get one of them to agree to drop off with me!

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Posted: 27-July-2010 at 06:57 | IP Logged Quote FakeBlonde

Hmm, it really depends who I am riding with, not so much with the keeping up but more with the thought
'well, I trust this rider in front, they ride the same way as me and take the same lines so if they are braking, chances are I will need to scrub off more speed'

We all were beginners and hopefully all still learning.




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